Lesson 8
Listing & Whichever
- 1 〜やら〜やら ~yara ~yara A and B and so on (chaotic, overwhelmed) The list that adds an 'ugh, so much at once' feeling to 「〜や〜など」.
- 2 〜にしろ〜にしろ ~ni shiro ~ni shiro whether A or B, the same holds Put two examples or an opposite pair and say 'whichever it is, the same applies'.
- 3 〜にしろ ~ni shiro even if / even granting that (formal) 'Even granting that, my view does not change' — the formal cousin of としても that also takes facts.
- 4 〜だの〜だの ~da no ~da no A and B and the like (fed-up tone) The spoken list for other people's nagging or a messy pile, said with an 'ugh'.
- 5 N という N N to iu N every single N, without exception The same noun twice — 「店という店」— for 'every single one there is'.
Lesson check
All 5 forms of this lesson together — pick the right one from its look-alikes, the way the exam does. 6/8 completes the lesson.
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「初めての給料をもらって、うれしい＿信じられない＿、不思議な気持ちだった。」— fill the blanks.
💡 Hint:Two feelings mixed, mind in a muddle.
い-adj + やら + い-adj + やら = overwhelmed by mixed feelings; だの carries only a fed-up tone, never for happy things.
「出勤する＿休む＿、前の日までに店長に連絡してください。」— fill the blanks.
💡 Hint:Two opposite cases, a request after.
Dictionary form + にしろ, twice = whichever it is, the same instruction follows; やら means 'overwhelmed by many', which does not fit a request.
「たとえ給料が安い＿、今の職場は人がいいので辞めたくない。」— fill the blank.
💡 Hint:たとえ comes first — 'granted, but…'.
い-adj + にしろ (once) = even if, followed by the speaker's decision; だの needs a pair and a fed-up tone.
「母は電話のたびに、早く結婚しろ＿、もっとお金を送れ＿と、うるさい。」— fill the blanks.
💡 Hint:Quoting someone's orders, fed up.
Imperative + だの + imperative + だの = '…and …' with a fed-up tone; やら does not attach to imperatives and says 'overwhelmed', not 'sick of it'.
「台風の日は電車＿電車が止まって、会社に行けなかった。」— which says 'every single train'?
💡 Hint:The same noun twice — what goes between?
N + という + the same N = every single one; やら／だの need two different examples, never the same word repeated.
Which sentence is unnatural?
💡 Hint:Where, and in what mood, does だの belong?
だの is spoken and fed-up only; a neutral list in a formal notice (date, place) takes 「や」.
Which sentence is unnatural?
💡 Hint:Are the two halves the same kind of thing?
にしろ〜にしろ pairs two items of the same kind (行く／行かない); 行く and 天気がいい are unrelated, so no pair.
Emailing the manager a neutral list — 'the 部長, the 課長 and others will attend the meeting' — which form?
💡 Hint:A formal, calm list — no feeling.
A neutral formal list takes plain 〜や〜など from N4; やら would read as 'overwhelmed', and だの is fed-up and spoken only.
Your score: /8